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Carving Question

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Carving Question

From: SpringChick (springchick1219@attbi.com) | Date: 2002-10-15 11:08:32 UTC
Wondering what to use to give the effect of shading -- a fine
distortion on the stamp surface. I tried sandpaper and maybe I'm not
doing it right, but I get either no effect at all (not much rub) or a
badly crumbled carving (too much rub). I've been using a paperclip
end and various size needles, etc. to make holes in my stamp and
create the effect of bushes, trees and so on, but that leaves a
defined hole, not quite the effect I am looking for.

Would be interested to hear what others have used for a shading
effect. Thanks!

Deb (SpringChick)
P36 F39 X0


Re: [LbNA] Carving Question

From: (ruthann@ruthannzaroff.com) | Date: 2002-10-15 13:22:59 UTC
On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 11:08:32 -0000 "SpringChick" wrote:

> Wondering what to use to give the effect of shading . . .

This is the soft-block carver's most common problem! Some use a pin and
poke dots galore, and some do cross-hatching, which is what I do. I take
my #1 Speedball gouge and LIGHTLY skim the surface in parallel lines
(spacing is up to you -- the closer they are, the lighter the area will
be), and then I LIGHTLY skim the surface in a perpendicular direction --
giving a crosshatch effect. You can also use an X-Acto blade, but I don't
find that as effective.

Below is a link to a large soft-block carving I did (using the Speedball
"pink stuff"), but it uses a lot of shading, including the crosshatch
technique.

http://ruthannzaroff.com/carving/images/rhino.jpg

Ruthann
aka Mirkwood



Re: [LbNA] Carving Question

From: daughteroftheolddominion (daughteroftheolddominion@yahoo.com) | Date: 2002-10-15 13:39:52 UTC
Omigosh - that's a rubber stamp!!? That's fantastic. I've seen the
website and the wonderful stamps, but I don't remember anything as
elaborate or as large as that rhino. Isn't it amazing at what some
talent can do for a piece of rubber? I've got the tools and the
rubber, now what website do I go to for some talent? :)


--- In letterbox-usa@y..., ruthann@r... wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 11:08:32 -0000 "SpringChick" wrote:
>
> Below is a link to a large soft-block carving I did (using the
Speedball
> "pink stuff"), but it uses a lot of shading, including the
crosshatch
> technique.
>
> http://ruthannzaroff.com/carving/images/rhino.jpg
>
> Ruthann
> aka Mirkwood

-------------



Re: [LbNA] Carving Question

From: (ruthann@ruthannzaroff.com) | Date: 2002-10-15 13:58:00 UTC
On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 13:39:52 -0000 "daughteroftheolddominion" wrote:

> I've got the tools and the
> rubber, now what website do I go to for some talent? :)

Thanks -- the size is 9 x 7 or so, and the picture is based on Albrect
Durer's wood block carving from 1515.

I teach soft-block carving and have a site with all sorts of information,
including a tutorial. Here is the link:

http://ruthannzaroff.com/carving

Once there, click on How To along the left, and there is the information.
In the "How To Carve" section there is the tutorial.

Ruthann
aka Mirkwood



Re: [LbNA] Carving Question

From: SpringChick (springchick1219@attbi.com) | Date: 2002-10-15 13:58:36 UTC
Oh Ruthann, your rhino is absolutely amazing! What box is he in?
I'm on my way out the door for that one! (just kiddin')

Thanks for the cross-hatching suggestion. I will have to give that a
try.

Deb (SpringChick)


--- In letterbox-usa@y..., ruthann@r... wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 11:08:32 -0000 "SpringChick" wrote:
>
> > Wondering what to use to give the effect of shading . . .
>
> This is the soft-block carver's most common problem! Some use a pin
and
> poke dots galore, and some do cross-hatching, which is what I do. I
take
> my #1 Speedball gouge and LIGHTLY skim the surface in parallel lines
> (spacing is up to you -- the closer they are, the lighter the area
will
> be), and then I LIGHTLY skim the surface in a perpendicular
direction --
> giving a crosshatch effect. You can also use an X-Acto blade, but I
don't
> find that as effective.
>
> Below is a link to a large soft-block carving I did (using the
Speedball
> "pink stuff"), but it uses a lot of shading, including the
crosshatch
> technique.
>
> http://ruthannzaroff.com/carving/images/rhino.jpg
>
> Ruthann
> aka Mirkwood


Re: [LbNA] Carving Question

From: Drew Family (drewclan@aol.com) | Date: 2002-10-15 16:08:05 UTC
Just one word: OHMYGOD!

Jay

>
> Below is a link to a large soft-block carving I did (using the
Speedball
> "pink stuff"), but it uses a lot of shading, including the
crosshatch
> technique.
>
> http://ruthannzaroff.com/carving/images/rhino.jpg
>
> Ruthann
> aka Mirkwood


Re: [LbNA] Carving Question

From: psycomommy2003 (ktborrelli@hotmail.com) | Date: 2002-10-15 18:17:23 UTC
---SO that's what you do on cold winter nights! I took a tour of your
site, WOW! I was so proud of my stamp that I carved last night,
because I could see a big improvement. It doesn't come close! I'll
call this my Grandma Moses period.
Thanks Mirkwood, Psychomommy

>
> Thanks -- the size is 9 x 7 or so, and the picture is based on
Albrect
> Durer's wood block carving from 1515.
>
> I teach soft-block carving and have a site with all sorts of
information,
> including a tutorial. Here is the link:
>
> http://ruthannzaroff.com/carving
>
> Once there, click on How To along the left, and there is the
information.
> In the "How To Carve" section there is the tutorial.
>
> Ruthann
> aka Mirkwood


Re: [LbNA] Carving Question

From: lizardbuttsfamily (mmebt@hotmail.com) | Date: 2002-10-15 19:34:16 UTC
Ruthann,

My daughter, Bookworm said, "How do you do that?" Your work is
beautiful and the rhino stamp is AWESOME.

Psycommy, if you're in the Grandma Moses period, then I would like to
say that my work is abstract expressionism.

Monica


"psycomommy2003" wrote:
> ---SO that's what you do on cold winter nights! I took a tour of
your
> site, WOW! I was so proud of my stamp that I carved last night,
> because I could see a big improvement. It doesn't come close! I'll
> call this my Grandma Moses period.
> Thanks Mirkwood, Psychomommy
>
> >
> > Thanks -- the size is 9 x 7 or so, and the picture is based on
> Albrect
> > Durer's wood block carving from 1515.
> >
> > I teach soft-block carving and have a site with all sorts of
> information,
> > including a tutorial. Here is the link:
> >
> > http://ruthannzaroff.com/carving
> >
> > Once there, click on How To along the left, and there is the
> information.
> > In the "How To Carve" section there is the tutorial.
> >
> > Ruthann
> > aka Mirkwood


Re: [LbNA] Carving Question

From: psycomommy2003 (ktborrelli@hotmail.com) | Date: 2002-10-15 20:15:59 UTC
-- Which pays more? Me thinks - abstract impressionism!
I'm to the point if you squint your eyes you get the idea.
Psychomommy


- In letterbox-usa@y..., "lizardbuttsfamily" wrote:
> Ruthann,
>
> My daughter, Bookworm said, "How do you do that?" Your work is
> beautiful and the rhino stamp is AWESOME.
>
> Psycommy, if you're in the Grandma Moses period, then I would like
to
> say that my work is abstract expressionism.
>
> Monica
>
>
>>


Re: Carving Question

From: adglbna (ADGLBNA@aol.com) | Date: 2002-10-15 20:23:06 UTC
Then I get to be the DaDaist. My stick figures are the epitome of
irrationality and truly exhibit the negation of traditional artistic
values.

If you aren't buying that, then how about being a Gilbert and
Sullivanist? (i.e. full of words and music and signifying nothing)

Tammy

--- In letterbox-usa@y..., "psycomommy2003" wrote:
> -- Which pays more? Me thinks - abstract impressionism!
> I'm to the point if you squint your eyes you get the idea.
> Psychomommy
>
>
> - In letterbox-usa@y..., "lizardbuttsfamily" wrote:
> > Ruthann,
> >
> > My daughter, Bookworm said, "How do you do that?" Your work is
> > beautiful and the rhino stamp is AWESOME.
> >
> > Psycommy, if you're in the Grandma Moses period, then I would
like
> to
> > say that my work is abstract expressionism.
> >
> > Monica
> >
> >
> >>


Re: [LbNA] Carving Question

From: mothermoo2001 (cstearns07@hotmail.com) | Date: 2002-10-15 20:28:11 UTC

> Below is a link to a large soft-block carving I did (using the
Speedball
> "pink stuff"), but it uses a lot of shading, including the
crosshatch
> technique.
>
> http://ruthannzaroff.com/carving/images/rhino.jpg
>
> Ruthann
> aka Mirkwood

We bow in respect oh mighty one! Bravo! I just put your carving
site on my favorites so Ican crawl through and absorb your expertise
Leader of the pack


Re: [LbNA] Carving Question

From: Alafair (ms_alafair@yahoo.com) | Date: 2002-10-15 13:59:20 UTC-07:00

Ruthann,

I just viewed your gallery. Your carvings are extraordinary and full of life, something I find very hard to capture. Please share with us again when you add something. Thanks also for the shading techniques. I shall put them to good use.

Linda a/k/a Alafair 

 ruthann@ruthannzaroff.com wrote:

On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 13:39:52 -0000 "daughteroftheolddominion" wrote:

> I've got the tools and the
> rubber, now what website do I go to for some talent? :)  

Thanks -- the size is 9 x 7 or so, and the picture is based on Albrect
Durer's wood block carving from 1515.

I teach soft-block carving and have a site with all sorts of information,
including a tutorial. Here is the link:

http://ruthannzaroff.com/carving

Once there, click on How To along the left, and there is the information.
In the "How To Carve" section there is the tutorial.

Ruthann
aka Mirkwood




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Re: [LbNA] Carving Question

From: Magic Mike (mmletterbox@hotmail.com) | Date: 2002-10-15 21:15:32 UTC

Kinda makes my stick figures look a bit poor!

Magic Mike


>From: "Drew Family"
>Reply-To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
>To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [LbNA] Carving Question
>Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 16:08:05 -0000
>
>Just one word: OHMYGOD!
>
>Jay
>
> >
> > Below is a link to a large soft-block carving I did (using the
>Speedball
> > "pink stuff"), but it uses a lot of shading, including the
>crosshatch
> > technique.
> >
> > http://ruthannzaroff.com/carving/images/rhino.jpg
> >
> > Ruthann
> > aka Mirkwood
>


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Re: [LbNA] Carving Question

From: Magic Mike (mmletterbox@hotmail.com) | Date: 2002-10-15 21:17:51 UTC
I took another look at that rhino stamp...If I could make something as
fantastic as that...would I really want to hide it in a letterbox!!!!

magic mike
(smaller letters as I am humbled by that artist!!!)


>From: "lizardbuttsfamily"
>Reply-To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
>To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [LbNA] Carving Question
>Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 19:34:16 -0000
>
>Ruthann,
>
>My daughter, Bookworm said, "How do you do that?" Your work is
>beautiful and the rhino stamp is AWESOME.
>
>Psycommy, if you're in the Grandma Moses period, then I would like to
>say that my work is abstract expressionism.
>
>Monica
>
>
>"psycomommy2003" wrote:
> > ---SO that's what you do on cold winter nights! I took a tour of
>your
> > site, WOW! I was so proud of my stamp that I carved last night,
> > because I could see a big improvement. It doesn't come close! I'll
> > call this my Grandma Moses period.
> > Thanks Mirkwood, Psychomommy
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks -- the size is 9 x 7 or so, and the picture is based on
> > Albrect
> > > Durer's wood block carving from 1515.
> > >
> > > I teach soft-block carving and have a site with all sorts of
> > information,
> > > including a tutorial. Here is the link:
> > >
> > > http://ruthannzaroff.com/carving
> > >
> > > Once there, click on How To along the left, and there is the
> > information.
> > > In the "How To Carve" section there is the tutorial.
> > >
> > > Ruthann
> > > aka Mirkwood
>


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Re: Carving Question

From: psycomommy2003 (ktborrelli@hotmail.com) | Date: 2002-10-15 21:52:20 UTC
--- Blah, Blah, Blah....... LOL :-)

In letterbox-usa@y..., "adglbna" wrote:
> Then I get to be the DaDaist. My stick figures are the epitome of
> irrationality and truly exhibit the negation of traditional
artistic
> values.
>

Sounds like a politician!
Psychomommy

> If you aren't buying that, then how about being a Gilbert and
> Sullivanist? (i.e. full of words and music and signifying nothing)
>
> Tammy
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@y..., "psycomommy2003" wrote:
> > -- Which pays more? Me thinks - abstract impressionism!
> > I'm to the point if you squint your eyes you get the idea.
> > Psychomommy
> >
> >
> > - In letterbox-usa@y..., "lizardbuttsfamily" wrote:
> > > Ruthann,
> > >
> > > My daughter, Bookworm said, "How do you do that?" Your work is
> > > beautiful and the rhino stamp is AWESOME.
> > >
> > > Psycommy, if you're in the Grandma Moses period, then I would
> like
> > to
> > > say that my work is abstract expressionism.
> > >
> > > Monica
> > >
> > >
> > >>


Re: [LbNA] Carving Question

From: lizardbuttsfamily (mmebt@hotmail.com) | Date: 2002-10-16 02:44:53 UTC
You should see my naked hiker stamp. The poor dude only has boots
on.

After reading Ryan's story of the naked hiker that he saw, I guess my
dude on the stamp has the appropriate gear for hiking.


Monica( the hiker who wears more than just boots when hiking)

"Magic Mike" wrote:
>
> Kinda makes my stick figures look a bit poor!
>
> Magic Mike
>
>
> >From: "Drew Family"
> >Reply-To: letterbox-usa@y...
> >To: letterbox-usa@y...
> >Subject: Re: [LbNA] Carving Question
> >Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 16:08:05 -0000
> >
> >Just one word: OHMYGOD!
> >
> >Jay
> >
> > >
> > > Below is a link to a large soft-block carving I did (using the
> >Speedball
> > > "pink stuff"), but it uses a lot of shading, including the
> >crosshatch
> > > technique.
> > >
> > > http://ruthannzaroff.com/carving/images/rhino.jpg
> > >
> > > Ruthann
> > > aka Mirkwood
> >
>
>
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Carving Question

From: Tara (tarasdsu@yahoo.com) | Date: 2004-08-02 19:15:15 UTC
I am trying to carve a photo, and have used the "rubber stamp"
filter in photoshop to get the picture ready...but there are some
grainy areas that I have no idea how to carve. They look like
little speckles. Anyone have any suggestions on how the heck I can
make it sandy-looking? I've searched the archives, but don't
exactly know what to type?
Thanks,
Tara


Re: Carving Question

From: ndnboxing (ndnboxing@yahoo.com) | Date: 2004-08-02 19:54:36 UTC
Yes, there are several things you can do.
1. Do not make the area sandy-grainy looking. Either don't use that
part of the image or incorporate it a different way. Ex. use color
markers when stamping to make that part of the image different.
2. Use cross-hatching instead of the grainy look.
3. You can make the grainy look by using a syringe to poke holes out
to simulate the grainy look.

Hope this helps,
Mark

--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Tara" wrote:
> I am trying to carve a photo, and have used the "rubber stamp"
> filter in photoshop to get the picture ready...but there are some
> grainy areas that I have no idea how to carve. They look like
> little speckles. Anyone have any suggestions on how the heck I can
> make it sandy-looking? I've searched the archives, but don't
> exactly know what to type?
> Thanks,
> Tara


Re: [LbNA] Re: Carving Question

From: Barefoot Lucy (barefootlucy@yahoo.com) | Date: 2004-08-02 14:41:50 UTC-07:00
My daughter just finished a stamp using the very tip
of an exacto knife to make many tiny punctures in the
material. It didn't exactly look grainy, but it sure
distinguished the appearance to be gray-y. It looks
great!

Lucy





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Re: Carving Question

From: quiet_place (letterbox@quietplace.ws) | Date: 2004-08-02 21:45:18 UTC
I agree with Mark that it isn't necessary to carve every speck. I'd
also like to suggest trying to use the "edge" option before, or
instead of, the "stamp" filter. I just carved a stamp of my
daughter and I used this. I printed it out and then went around it
with pencil, transferred it, then drew in ink on the rubber to
outline which lines I would carve and which I would leave out.

Though, this doesn't really answer your question about speckled
areas. I haven't attempted that one before.

-Quiet Place


[LbNA] Re: Carving Question

From: SpringChick (springchick@letterbox-mi.com) | Date: 2004-08-02 22:11:43 UTC
You can also use various sized sewing and darning needles to do
this. The bigger the needle and more blunt the tip, the larger the
holes and more white space you will get. Just poke the area full of
holes -- more or less depending on how grainy you want it to look.
I keep a piece of felt with about 8 different sized needles on in my
carving kit and use them quite a bit for shading effects.

One hint when doing this -- use the needles or Exacto knife to do
the puncturing BEFORE you carve away the surrounding areas. This
will give you a more even distribution of shading. If you carve
away the surrounding areas first, the poked holes will tend to be
concentrated in the center of the shaded area because it is more
difficult to get close to the edges.

I have also heard of people using sandpaper, but personally have not
had very good success with that.

SpringChick


--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Barefoot Lucy
wrote:
> My daughter just finished a stamp using the very tip
> of an exacto knife to make many tiny punctures in the
> material. It didn't exactly look grainy, but it sure
> distinguished the appearance to be gray-y. It looks
> great!
>
> Lucy
>
>
>
>
>
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Carving Question

From: midlandtrailblazer (shadowrose@minister.com) | Date: 2007-10-04 15:51:33 UTC
I have been carving for a short time and have a question for those
who have been doing it for years.

When we first started letterboxing two years ago we got a block of
Speedball's Speedy Carve (it was the only thing carried locally) and
used 1/4 of it to carve our son a stamp. By the end of the year the
ear had broken off. I recently found the rest of the block and
decided to try carving a new stamp out of it, but all it did was
crumble and break off in chunks, which got me wondering about the
longevity of carving medium.

Can anyone tell me how well the Speedball Speedy Stamp (pink stuff)
and the Staedler MasterCarve holds up over the years? These are my
choice mediums and just wondered how often I may have to replace the
stamps I carve from them.

What recommendations would you give for a medium that will hold up
for years to come?

midlandtrailblazer


Re: [LbNA] Carving Question

From: Nathan Brown (Cyclonic07@aol.com) | Date: 2007-10-04 12:00:15 UTC-04:00
midlandtrailblazer wrote:
> I have been carving for a short time and have a question for those
> who have been doing it for years.
>
> When we first started letterboxing two years ago we got a block of
> Speedball's Speedy Carve (it was the only thing carried locally) and
> used 1/4 of it to carve our son a stamp. By the end of the year the
> ear had broken off. I recently found the rest of the block and
> decided to try carving a new stamp out of it, but all it did was
> crumble and break off in chunks, which got me wondering about the
> longevity of carving medium.
>
> Can anyone tell me how well the Speedball Speedy Stamp (pink stuff)
> and the Staedler MasterCarve holds up over the years? These are my
> choice mediums and just wondered how often I may have to replace the
> stamps I carve from them.
>
> What recommendations would you give for a medium that will hold up
> for years to come?
>
> midlandtrailblazer
>


The Speedy-Carve is junk. It crumbles and falls apart in no time, as
you have found.

I carved my Sig Stamp out of Speedy-Stamp (AKA The Pink Stuff) and it
has held up very well after two years and thousands of stampings.
Mastercarve also holds well from what I can tell. These days I prefer
PZ Cut which works best for my particular carving style. Whichever
you chose, just stay away from that Speedy-Carve stuff.

--
Nathan Brown

AKA Cyclonic
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Re: [LbNA] Carving Question

From: Hikers and Hounds (hikers_n_hounds@yahoo.com) | Date: 2007-10-04 09:11:27 UTC-07:00
I bought a ton of various materials in 2004 when I firststarted and found they all dried out eventually.Then I read something on one of the lists about keeping them in zip lock bags.I don that now and it reallyseems to work well.But do stay away for the cheap Speedball stuff (yellowish) my favorite is the Speedballpink stuffbut everyone has to figure out whatworks best for them.

H&H

midlandtrailblazer wrote:
Can anyone tell me how well the Speedball Speedy Stamp (pink stuff)
and the Staedler MasterCarve holds up over the years? These are my
choice mediums and just wondered how often I may have to replace the
stamps I carve from them.

What recommendations would you give for a medium that will hold up
for years to come?

midlandtrailblazer






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Re: [LbNA] Carving Question

From: Lightnin Bug (rpboehme@yahoo.com) | Date: 2007-10-04 19:51:41 UTC
The reason for that (Dr. Bug's chemistry lesson du Jour) can be found
on the newboxer's list. Just search the term 'plasticizer' in the
little search field when you get there.

LB

--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Hikers and Hounds
wrote:
>
> I bought a ton of various materials in 2004 when I firststarted and
found they all dried out eventually.Then I read something on one of
the lists about keeping them in zip lock bags.I don that now and it
reallyseems to work well.But do stay away for the cheap Speedball
stuff (yellowish) my favorite is the Speedballpink stuffbut everyone
has to figure out whatworks best for them.
>
> H&H
>
> midlandtrailblazer wrote:
> Can anyone tell me how well the Speedball Speedy Stamp
(pink stuff)
> and the Staedler MasterCarve holds up over the years? These are my
> choice mediums and just wondered how often I may have to replace
the
> stamps I carve from them.
>
> What recommendations would you give for a medium that will hold up
> for years to come?
>
> midlandtrailblazer
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LbNA] Carving Question

From: (motofranz@webtv.net) | Date: 2007-10-08 20:14:01 UTC-04:00
midlandtrailblazer,

I have stamps carved from PZKUT in the great outdorrs that I carved in
2001 and they seem to be holding up just fine.

I have noticed that PZKUT does get a little hard over time though.

The racoons just love PZKUT too...

franzsolo...










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